RDYSL Club
Presidents Meeting
Sunday,
September 12, 2004
Attendance: Gary Levine, Neil Fisher,
Jacky Van Dellon, Mark Van Dellon, Lou Boyon, Mike Nelson, Kurt Knoblauch,
Dennis Crowe, Approximately 18 Clubs were represented
Meeting called to order:
2:03pm
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Rule
306 Assigning Players to a Team
o Sean Gleeson Fairport –
proposes adding that seven year old eligibility should be left to club
discretion and no minimum should be stated in rules
o Curt Regruit Penfield
Rangers – could see this becoming a lead into a U7 Division
o Roger Best – would rather
see 7 year olds channeled to house leagues
§
Rule
411 Playing Conditions
o Roger Best – communicates
that a player has recently died from an accident with a goal post
o Gary Levine – suggests sand
bags for portable goals
§
Rule
411 Weather
o Referee Guideline of 30 / 30
adopted
o Curt Regruit – Kevin
Williams Channel 13 took 30/30 to national convention and reports this as
unsafe, concerned over liability, supports Section V rule which includes sound
of thunder
o Sean Gleeson – supports
Penfield position
o In general support is for
inclusion of Section V Rule
o Gary Levine – asks that Sean
and/or Curt forward Section V Rule to Gary and Mark
o There is concern that
referees aren’t consistent in their application of the guidelines/rules
§
Sean
Gleeson – Safety suggestions
o Round goal posts should be
the direction over time, as clubs purchase new goal posts
1.
Some
manufactures are providing padding
2.
Some
leagues have mandated padding
o Goalie headgear up to
modified age group
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Rule
502 Coaching Staff Misconduct and Violations
o DC will have ability to
record this as a warning
o How will club presidents get
notification – website will show
o Suggestion that DC email
coach with warning and a copy to Club President
o DC will have discretion on
whether to fine for minor or not
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Rule
503 Spectator Misconduct and Violations
o Identified and Unidentified
o Sean Gleeson – Not sure he
agrees with fines based on example of parent entering the field for an injured
player
o Gary Levine– Rules are based
on referee discretion
o Sean Gleeson– referee
inconsistency
o Appeal Process – see next
section
o Curt Regruit – spectators on
opposite sides, had a couple of instances where it was difficult to get people
to comply, what mechanism is there to aid in this effort
o Gary Levine– suggests
reporting this to the DC who can apply pressure to the offending team
§
Rule
600 Protests and Appeals
o WSA - questions why the
Board didn’t have authority to use discretion in the application of fines
o Gary Levine– states that
nothing in the rules allowed for this
o Neal Fisher– states that
clubs can ask not to have that referee
o Neal Fisher– states that
suspensions cannot be appealed
o Gary Levine– rules must be
uniformly applied, there may have been injustices, but there was nothing to
allow for review
o Sean Gleeson– rules draft at
last years club presidents meeting were presented but not communicated in final
form prior to being implemented (30 days didn’t happen as stated in club
presidents meeting), there must be a way for the board to review certain
incidents
o Curt Regruit – in reference
to Sean Gleeson comments, 30 days was for comment and then the board would make
a decision
o How is “upheld” defined in
#3i, suggestion to define this
o Neal Fisher– what boundary
would be used for what would be reviewed, $200 fines?
o Michael Triassi - Suggestion
to make a change to allow for Board to address discriminatory sanctions…
o Michael Triassi – proposes
non fighting red card from $50 to $25
o Sean Gleeson – going
forward, are suspensions in effect until appeal is heard and a decision is made
1.
Gary
– yes, see part J under Protest and Appeals
§
Rule
802 Annual Schedule of Fees and Fines
§
Gary
Levine reviewed several changes that were made for the 2004 season and the
overall results that they produced, in general the board felt that all of the
changes should be kept in place
§
Curt
Regruit - Red Card suspensions as related to tournaments
o Gary Levine – we closed the
loop hole by defining
o Gates – didn’t like it, may
rescheduled anyway, school district
o Curt Regruit – in favor
o Penfield Strikers - in favor
o Greece working with town to
evaluate all fields instead of blanket closing
o Mark VanDellon – We need to “walk before we run”
meaning we tested the current implementation to see if it worked with DC. It has already been discussed and plans are
to change it for next year if time permits.
§
Mark VanDellon– fully
supported board action to close down website, would like to see place to put
news updates
§
Gary Levine – Bulletin
Board was abused by a select few, we tried to monitor it but could not keep up
with it, Mark VanDellon is reviewing a mechanism to monitor this, intent to
have something by spring but there is no promise
o Board is going to keep data, year to year and based on
that data make specific requests from referees on what referees are being
assigned
o Board working towards a point when RDYSL can improve
assigning issues
o Board is working with DCs to use referee reports to
match up game reports to evaluations
o Board asked to have certain referee assessments for
certain referees identified through evaluations data and will continue to do so
o Penfield Strikers – is there a way to get the referee
evaluations to the referees quicker, so that the referees can address issues
o Sean Gleeson – sensitize referee unit that they are an
authority figure
o Sean Gleeson – U17 & U19 three referee system for
both boys and girls (see below)
§
Three referee system –
Board proposing to move three referee system from Girls U19 to Boys U17
§
Michael – is there a way
for clubs to know which of their coaches did referee evaluations and which ones
did not?
o
Action -
Mark VanDellon will look into this
§
U10 double header fee –
one fee versus two fees,
o
Consensus that we should
have one fee
§
Referee Assignment Fee –
currently paid by league, proposing to have this fee paid by clubs directly to
the referee and then have the referee pay the assignor
o
Penfield Strikers –
experience as a referee says this will have consequences with the referee
assignors, young referees won’t pay this, assignor won’t assign those kids,
this effects the loss of young referees
o
Sean – will the clubs
see a reduction somewhere else that offsets the cost of this fee
o
Greece Eclipse – timing
of decision needs to account for the effect this change will have on the club
budgets
o
Gary Levine – if
implemented, it will be announced ahead of time so that clubs have time to make
the appropriate adjustments
o Sean Gleeson – DC’s sometimes over-rule club and
insist that team play D1 instead of D2 requested by the club
o What is done for U11?
1. Board uses the information placed on team registration
form just like placing a U9 or U10 team that has no win/loss record.
o Curt Regruit – What about 2A and 2B
1. Board goal to have divisions of 1,2,3,4 instead of 1,
2A, 2B, 3….
o Sean Gleeson – requests that the DC discuss the data
with the person from the club providing the request
o Gates would like to see a D license sponsored course
o Consensus is that this is something to continue and
hold as soon as possible, even as early as November / December
o RDYSL All-Star teams generally did well
o Coaches and kids evals were positive, would they share
in expense (yes), did they like the format (yes), D2 kids represented
themselves well
o RDYSL All-stars played RDYSL Club teams – negative
experience
o Some clubs didn’t participate
o Jr Rhinos Jim Mort agreed to do this again next year
o Board proposing to continue this for next year, would
start earlier in the identification of coaches and players
o Peppy Ehrlich – for what ages U12 – U15?
1. Yes U12 – U15
o Spencerport – when would the tournament be?
1. RDYSL doesn’t control dates, NYW does, there are a
limited number of dates due to the number of clubs having tournaments
o Sean Gleeson – playing in the Empire Cup is not the
only option, need to investigate other options
o Sean Gleeson – would like to see more interactive
discussion with clubs before something is acted on
o Gates – there were examples of recruiting
1. Gary – let him know and he will not use that coach
again